I think you didn't have the bit that says "[/quote]" to complete the "syntax" ... don't worry about it.

Thanks very much; I completely agree with you.

Will do the weekend bets, if any, and report back. Have a good weekend.

Morning, used the3M system (sort of - havn't bought it yet) on the National and made £1450 :lol: .
Anyway, my reason for posting, have you been back to Brimardon recently; check last 2 posts? !
Also, take a look at www.equinex.com. They make some amazing claims and charge a Kings Ransom.
Like the hourly arbing on the FTSE , Dave, must have a look. Do any of you follow Ed Downs commentary on the DOW,etc ?
Richard...

Excellent result! I don't bet on the National and didn't fancy starting yesterday.

3M weekend update: Saturday 5 selections, won 2, lost 3, small overall loss. Sunday no selections.

I have put my staking down (before the weekend, luckily), from their recommended 10% to 6%.

Absolutely. I decided not to respond to Grizzly. I felt like mentioning that such posts are nearly always from a first-time poster and therefore have precisely zero credibility, but to be honest I'm so frightened of starting a major argument in this place every time I open my mouth that I just decided to let it go.

So I see. They also offer a free trial, but only ONE week! I have a friend or two in the trade still, and will ask around about them.

I still get the email every day, but can't remember the last time I actually read the thing, to be honest. I only really trade Forex now.

(Are you by any chance the Richard Sharp who used to be associated with Games And Puzzles magazine a long time ago, and has written a book or two? If so, I think we might have played bridge together - as opponents, I mean - once or twice over the years ...).

No I am not that Richard Sharp, I don't think, sounds like it might be fun though. lol
The national is not realy a good race to bet in as a rule. However, these days with the lower height on the fences, reasonably good ground, no weight over 11-3, good recent form and a carefull stacking plan it usualy works out ok. Bearing in mind that prices are strong due to size of field; got 10-1 early against 7-1 SP. Got the winner last year and before. But I am still a mug horse Punter, I just about loose overall, but enjoy the hobby; hence the interest in these posts.

You clearly know a lot more about the National than I do.

Richard, may I ask you about a comment of yours from earlier in the thread which interested me? To be honest I might have asked by PM but you seem to have them disabled(?).

You said "There is a nice way to make virtually guaranteed money on Black Jack with little risk (100/200% returns are common)." As someone who played semi-professionally in more than a dozen countries and in various different teams (this was more than 20 years ago, when I was mostly a student) you'll appreciate that this comment "caught my eye" - and I'm putting it rather mildly. It's a subject on which, one way and another, I have a lot of experience and still some residual interest, naturally enough. Would you care to say more, by any chance?

(If you really don't fancy a public discussion on this subject and would prefer me to delete this post, please just say so and I will, promptly.)

Roberto,

Did you see the Horizon documentary on BlackJack a few months ago ? It also covered the subject of risk free profits to be made playing this game. However, the casinos are all aware of how it is done and one group of people who used to make a living were unable to go to any casino in the whole world. Apparantly they all have computer recognition systems in place which has made it all but impossible to make sustained profits as you just wont be allowed to play.

A great programme though all the same.


Paul

No, I missed it, Paul. Heard about it only afterwards from people in the trade.

I've been banned from many, many casinos in the past (though slightly to my surprise, there are quite a few in London and elsewhere in the UK whereI can now get in). I was always relatively good at "discretion" and "not looking like a card-counter" anyway; but you can only get so far, of course. Contrary to what most people imagine about it, it was _very_ hard work and the overall profits were not nearly as high as tends to be suggested by authors like Bass and Mezrich!

Sorry about the PM; I have changed the settings. I mentioned before that I know post without a handle and forgot to set all the options; I did this in a hurry when posting to the thread on Xpertrader and my involvement with the Kent Police Fraud Squad and their activities.

With regards to the BJ some sites charge for this info. but I am not in to all that,so:
As you know when you sign up to online casinos they will give you free money (say deosit $100 get $200).
Obviously there are conditions, say you have to play through the deposit and bonus 10X before you can withdraw ie $3000. or 600x$5 dollar hands played through. Choose a site that has a low % house return, say $3%. As you will know this house% assumes that you (player) always play perfect strategy BJ; most don't so the Casino gets your bucks, hopefully you deposit again = happy days for the House.
However, you print a strategy card for their variant of the game, play this every hand no matter what. Use a sensible size stake to allow for variants that exsist when playing random number outcomes; from experiance I would say around 50/60th of your pot (hence $5 stake in this example). Or smaller to avoid burn out;I started 1st time at $2 but it takes ages to play thru (RSI risk lol). So play thru 3000 and at %3 you should be down $90, you cash out 210 and pocket $110 profit of course Lady Luck can see this cah out being higher or lower but overall it works. I played 15 a year ago and result = 1 lost, 1 break even (deposit back), 13 profit of at least 150%.

The casinos consider it is abuse so you have to be carefull not to play to many in same group. However, when cashing out you have played by the rules, stick to your guns, jump through hoops if you have to (fax copy of passport, etc) and I got paid everytime. HAPPY HAPPY DAYS .

I tend to stick to big names as there are sharks out there. Also, the random number generators uded by US and European Casinos are heavily regulated.

Any ? welcomed.

Many thanks for this. Stupidly, had not realised you meant "online BJ".

http://www.onlineblackjackguide.com/ gives a better explanation than me for those that are interested. By the way I realise the gains are relatively small compared to the effort, although it doesn't take as long as you might think when you get used to it. However, I used the stake money earned to fund another project and got imense pleasure out of beating them up!

I would be interested in disscussing the merits of which is the best count to use Roberto. Also, from your comments you imply that you can "make" in 6 deck Euro games, is this so ?
Richard...