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Old 04-23-2005, 06:47 PM
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Do Racing2win give any explanation as to how they arrive at the selections or type of race etc?
Not really. They make some general observations in the book, but not enough for you to work out the selections for yourself of course (which you can understand, when they want to sell them at £77 for 4 weeks).

Update: Friday 22nd, 2 races, 1 won (1.45 Sandown, 2 selections), 1 lost (6.30 Newton Abot, 2 selections). I lost about 1% of my bank.
Saturday 23rd, 2 races, both won (3.40 Leicester, 2 selections, and 3.45 Sandown, 2 selections). I made about 4%.
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Old 04-24-2005, 08:34 AM
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I am always concerned about using any approach that relies on third party skills as opposed to being able to understand how selections are arrived at.


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Old 04-24-2005, 12:52 PM
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I am always concerned about using any approach that relies on third party skills as opposed to being able to understand how selections are arrived at.
Me too, Paul, but the way I look at it is this: if something's making consistent profits which are reliant on third-party skills rather than my being able to understand how selections are arrived at, I'd rather use it, in addition to everything else I'm doing, than not use it.

It's as simple as that. And in such a case that's the only choice I have, isn't it?

I'm not saying that this _is_ such a case, of course: it's far too early to say that, although preliminary indications certainly suggest that at the very least it's rather better than most.

(Update: April 24th, no selections).
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
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Hi Chaps,

Sorry for butting in but has anyone seen this software before: http://www.bettingbots.com/

and no Im not selling/promoting it before anyone asks!!!

Cheers,

Nigel..
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Old 04-24-2005, 06:23 PM
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Betting Bot discusion.

http://www.racing-systems.co.uk/cgi-...iscussion=4566

Maybe of interest.
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Old 04-24-2005, 06:28 PM
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Hello jwhite8359

Thank you for that..... I will have a good read up.

Nigel.
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:06 PM
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3M method update: 25th April, no selections. (No great surprise, in fact maybe even a slightly encouraging sign, because the racing today looks absolutely awful to me).
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:12 PM
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Who knows about football?

I know absolutely nothing (but _nothing_!) about football, but I'm assuming that one or two people in this thread will be able to make comments about the possible viability (or lack of it) of what's below ...

Apparently draws are comparatively rare in football matches broadcast live on TV? (I can't begin to understand why that should be so). I've seen it alleged that it's possible to make consistent and steady profits by betting on the exchanges whenever a match is broadcast live. At the beginning, lay the draw (and have a small saver stake backing the 0-0 draw). As soon as the first goal is scored, the odds on the draw will lengthen considerably, enabling you to back the draw at a much higher price, thus (with appropriate staking, obviously) ensuring a profit. Does this sound feasible, and would it be practicable?
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:44 PM
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Take a look, there is a game on this evening. Arsenal vs Tothenham from Highbury.

I guess that the initial odds will vary hugely on the two teams playing. If you have a strong home team then the monies received for laying the draw could be quite poor and you could expose yourself to quite a bit of risk.

Can you back a nil - nil ? Yes - I see it 13.5-1

Ok, I'll give it a go.

I laid the draw for £30 at 4.1 (3.1-1) and backed the nil-nil at 14-1 with £7

My liability in the event of a draw is £93
If its stays nil-nil I'll pick up £91

Lets see how it goes,
Steve.
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:07 PM
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Thanks for replying, Steve ...

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If you have a strong home team then the monies received for laying the draw could be quite poor and you could expose yourself to quite a bit of risk.
I see ... that's not so clever, then. I was naively hoping there might be a risk-free way to do it!

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My liability in the event of a draw is £93
I can't access Betfair at the moment - the first time this has ever happened (but a new hazard worth thinking about, although one can always phone them, I suppose ...). But presumably after Arsenal scored the odds lengthened on the draw enabling you to back it for a higher price?

Edit: I see now the draw is about 8/1, which looks promising if you could lay it at 3.1/1 ... but of course, quite a lot of time has now elapsed without another goal, and what matters is more what the price was after the goal was scored, I suppose ...
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