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Old 12-13-2007, 02:27 AM
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Illegally listening to phone conversations of Americans is illegal without a court order. Torture has found to be ineffective because , after a while, the prisoner just tells you what you want to hear. just because you say building #7 theory has been dissproven, does not make it true. How about if you were a prisoner and were waterboarded. Terrorists drive trucks into buildings and the US illegally occupies a country and kills 1 millon people. Probably does not have anything to do with Oil. Right
Well since the Patriot Act was passed by a very large majority that right there makes it legal. Plus you act like all phones are tapped when it is just the phones of suspected people with terror links.
Also I would like to point out that technically by the Constitution wire tapping is not illegal. The Supreme Court messed up and somehow found that wire tapping related to search and seizures when it obviously was not.

Plus the torture you go on and on about is ridiculous. Water boarding has been done maybe 3 times and has not been done since 2003. Plus I am not a terrorist or anything so I do not have to worry about being tortured. But the people that do are those in these foreign countries trying to help and be charitable. Kind of like the christian group that got kidnapped by te Taliban.

I want a source to your US killing 1 million people statement. Cause that alone shows you are so off base on this topic. In Iraq about 75% of civilian deaths are caused by terrorists. That shows who the real enemy is. If these people are opposed to us being there wouldnt it make since to attack us instead of crowds of people? So shut up and think before you speak.

Finally your oil statement again shows you know very little about this topic. America gets about 1% of our oil frim Iraq. How is this a war for oil then? We have not taken a single drop of their oil. But you know what I would love some free Iraqi oil. If this is indeed a war for oil then I want to know where the oil is. Oh wait a second. We are actually tryinig to get the Iraqi government to pass an oil bill to split the profits.

Also if you want to debate the building 7 incident then go ahead. Please tell me what you have to show it was a conspiracy.

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Old 12-13-2007, 01:38 PM
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Nope, I don't think so. I think a lot of the people that say they think it was really don't and they are just trying to get attention.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:49 PM
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I can’t imagine it was a government conspiracy. The Twin Towers were a national landmark and an integral part of the New York skyline. I do believe, though, that the US government had information that they failed to act on that perhaps could have prevented the tragedy.
There have been many an investigation about the government having information. At one point Rice was being investigated about some document warning of an attack. This was sparked by the "Jersey Girls" by the way.

The committee had an agenda going in to prove the Bush admin. did nothing to stop it. So they briefly distorted what the document said and asked her if it existed. She said yes it did. Then she tried to explain what the document actually said and she kept getting cut off.

Finally after a while she just over powered his voice and took control. The document was from the early to mid 90's and it warned that their may be an attack

No where was there a date, a time, a location, a method. Nothing.

So the government really did not know much about the attack.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:24 PM
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All the past videos have been made by people who lie, misquote, and tell half the truth to make things seem to be way different then the truth.
These people should be ashamed.
That's quite a sweeping generalization, don't you think?

Do you have a list of the videos to which you refer, and does it include the CBC documentary?

CBC: The Secret History of 9/11
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:07 PM
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I know of this guy called Griffin (Griffith?) who "debunked" the debunking of the conspiracy. The guy used a neo-nazi white Supremacist group as a source. Very reliable indeed.
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:20 PM
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Well I guess there is no free speech at Betcamp. I post my thoughts about 911, Bush, CIAand torture without using any profanity and the next morning my posting had dissappeared. Could Betcamp be a front for the CIA?
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:05 AM
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Perhaps your comments were a little ridiculous and had nothing to back them up? Or you were talking like you just did accusing everyone to be in the CIA. Como se dice crazy?
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:16 AM
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Well I guess there is no free speech at Betcamp. I post my thoughts about 911, Bush, CIAand torture without using any profanity and the next morning my posting had dissappeared. Could Betcamp be a front for the CIA?
I deleted your post because you were ranting on saying ridiculous things without backing any of what you have said up. Yes you had no profanity but the overall tone of the message was unnccesary.

Like your Betcamp being a front for the CIA comment. Feel free to repost any of what you said in a more rational manner and it will remain here.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:43 PM
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Mr. so-called neutral Moderator for Betcamp. I thought this forum was for expressing views and opinions? I was told to shut up by Mr. Darkness. For all of the people viewing this site for the first time, you should know that if your post your opinon or view on a subject, and it is different from the Moderator, it will dissappear. No Free Speech here. Mr. Darkness and moderator of betcamp probably the same person. Just my views!
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:53 PM
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Mr. so-called neutral Moderator for Betcamp. I thought this forum was for expressing views and opinions? I was told to shut up by Mr. Darkness. For all of the people viewing this site for the first time, you should know that if your post your opinon or view on a subject, and it is different from the Moderator, it will dissappear. No Free Speech here. Mr. Darkness and moderator of betcamp probably the same person. Just my views!
Note the liberal tactic number 14 ( I have my own guidebook):

Due to the fact that he posted a rant that had nothing to back it up in the terms of facts, stats, views, quotes, or anything at all- his rant was deleted. Then in shock that someone would dare ask for legitimate facts to back things up he has gone to liberal tactic 14 which is to cry and complain about freedom of speech and people being people they are not.
So predictable.
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