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Old 11-25-2007, 02:43 AM
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Oh I like a good debate. And what I like even better is that you actually try to debate. Most people I know outright just name call and expect that to say that they won the debate. So thank you for actually providing information to me lol.

Anyways

I think we pretty much agree about Hitler and the whole diplomacy issue here so I will stop with that.

For the Iraq war, I have already given reasons that it was justified. It could be justified on grounds of security, on illegal development of WMD's, or most importantly on the grounds of regime change for the hundreds of thousands of his own people.
The last one itself makes the war justified. And I believe the UN should be in there helping. But as have said in the past. THE UN IS WORTHLESS. I would support a withdrawel from the UN but if we did that then we could no longer veto all the idiotic decisions they might try to make.

And if you say Bush was wrong about the connections to terror that Saddam had then you have to say the majority of the UN was wrong to. Cause they were the ones issuing resolutions against Iraq for funding terror groups.

Now, I do not believe North Korea is out to start any wars. I just believe they do not need nuclear weapons. What I find amazing is that North Korea is a nation living in poverty. Yet their leader continues to go after his arrogant and greedy goals leading the nation into a worse situation.

AND diplomacy has not worked for North Korea. It has been more than 10 years. For 10+ years diplomacy has not worked. And it has been good diplomacy. We have given incentives, fuel, money, luxories, etc. So we have done our part to try and be nice about things.

And I will touch on the preemptive war part real fast. Anybody remember Rwanda? Where up to a million innocent people were massacred in a genocide? What did the UN do then? Oh yea nothing at all. The people over there were praying to god that we would get involved and help. Never happened. If some nation were to of gone in there to help fight the armed groups, killing these people, would that be considered a war crime? You could say that is preeemptive.
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