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Old 11-24-2007, 05:44 PM
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I cited WW2 because the British (Chamberlain as Prime Minister) always tried to work diplomatically with Hitler before the war. Hitler put on some nice face and said yea okay I will do what you say. He then went on to take advantage of the British and their trust. You remember what happened afterwards? Chamberlain goes home to England and gives this massive speach about peace with honour. While he is doing that Hitler is preparing to invade and start war. GO DIPLOMACY!

Then you cite North Korea. Just you even mentioning them shows you have no knowledge of history. We have been working with North Korea since early to mid 1990's. Back then North Korea promised not to pursue nuclear ambitions. Idiots like Jimmy Carter was going over there to North Korea and interfering and causing even more problems by coming home and saying how nice things are. So anyways, they promise not to pursue nuclear weapons. So we pay them off with fuel, money, etc etc. They happily take our stuff and while that is going on they continue to develop nuclear technology. Then back around 2000-2002 they come out and finally admit they have been developing nuclear weapons for years. IMAGINE THAT! Then more recently we keep coming up wth deals. We promise them stuff if they stop their weapons programs.
You always hear how North Korea has agreed to shut down their program but guess what! I know this may com as a surprise but I will tell you a secret. THEY HAVEN'T. They keep saying they will but never do. They are just stalling, screwing around with us all, and trying to develop nuclear weapons. So that just goes to show another example of how diplomacy does not work.

You cited Vietnam. That is a liberal favourite to go into. They betrayed us back then and still continue to mention it today. I am not going to touch that one right now.

As for Iraq. That was a security threat. There was and are so many reasons that war was justified. But I see you as being one that will try to debate that. For that reason I am not going to waste my time typing out a massive page of info. I will keep it simple.
-Saddam had broken more than a dozen UN resolutions involving developing WMD's and funding terror groups.
-WMD's which he had used on the Kurds etc. Do not say they never existed that gets so old.
-Ties to the the original WTC bomber back in 1993.
-Ties to terror groups (maybe that goes with the funding of them and giving them munitions).
-HE MASSACRED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HIS PEOPLE
-By UN law the UN should of been in Iraq years earlier. But the UN is worthless as a group. America being part of the UN is supposed to act and fix problems. It really should be America and every single other country that is in the UN. They should all be in Iraq just for the humanitarian cause.

So either way you look at it the war was justified and military action was the solution. We had been trying to solve this diplomatically for years and it never worked. Military action would be doing a lot better in Iraq if we did not have these retarded movie stars at home being unpatriotic. Military action would be doing a lot better in Iraq if we did not have these defeatist Democrats in Congress lying about the war.

You want examples of military solutions working? Look at just about every major war. Minus WW1 because I think that was just about the most retarded war in history. But that is for different reasons lol.

More examples include the minor battles throughout the Cold War in which we free a lot of smaller nations from communism.

That is all I am going to say right now.
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